[POLITICS]: Tucker Carlson Accused of Being a Journalist

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
12/20/2018 at 13:07 • Filed to: None

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Who watches cable television any more except the POTUS?

DISCUSSION (23)

The Ghost of Oppo > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 13:19

The same people who believe everything they read on the internet, baby boomers

WiscoProud > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 13:48

One, Tucker Carlson is not a journalist, hes an editorialist. His programs are not reporting on the news in an unbiased manner, his editorials are his opinions from a stated biased viewpoint.

Second, while I agree that an advertiser is not implicitly endorsing the content of the program, putting pressure on advertisers is one of the only ways put pressure on these talking heads. Fox News will continue to pump out race-baiting and misogynistic content as long as it draws viewers and advertisers. If the profitability of these shows decreases, the rhetoric will be scaled back to a more appropriate level.

Cash Rewards > WiscoProud
12/20/2018 at 13:58

I generally agree, but the idea that news may be withheld based on anticipated sponsor reaction is a scary thought.

Grindintosecond > WiscoProud
12/20/2018 at 13:59

Very well said. It’s the absolute quarrel actual news has to deal with. Unless people watch, there is no fund ing to keep going. How do you get people to watch and yet still give real honest news? Very good question. Dad used to teach a week long journalism ethics guest class once a year and twenty years ago those were exactly the questions he posed. No real answer to them.

WiscoProud > Cash Rewards
12/20/2018 at 14:08

But news isn’t being withheld. These aren’t news programs. No one is boycotting Shepard Smith’s show, because he actually reports the news.

WiscoProud > Grindintosecond
12/20/2018 at 14:09

Boycotting advertising is a blunt weapon, but its the only one we got.

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 14:09

Tucker Carlson lost the bowtie, I stopped paying attention. You have to have a gimmick, otherwise you’re just another talking head.

But I’m an old man now. Robyn Meade used to do the 30-second Hollywood report and now she’s like a major anchor or something. And appears to have had a lot of surgery along the way, which is normal these days.

Cash Rewards > WiscoProud
12/20/2018 at 14:13

That's true, you're right. But if we're not careful I can easily imagine ending up there, and maybe this issue should be hashed out now before it actually is a problem.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Cash Rewards
12/20/2018 at 14:13

His show ain’t news though.

Cash Rewards > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
12/20/2018 at 14:16

Yeah, I know. I didn’t make my post clear that I was worried about a hypothetical. But, I don’t think the hypothetical is very far fetched at all right now. Near fetched, if you will.

WiscoProud > Cash Rewards
12/20/2018 at 14:20

The issue of editorial broadcasts like this isnt very old. Fox News was only founded in 1996. The real start of the problem was the elimination of the FCC Fairness Doctrine in 1987.

As long as the news is fact based, rather than opinion, its safe. Its when opinion starts getting inserted into the news, that you have a problem

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Ash78, voting early and often
12/20/2018 at 14:37

We ate dinner at 5:30 every night with the local news, then Tom Brokaw at 6:00 pm, and Dad would usually go upstairs to finish watching. We’d get shushed anytime except during the commericals or during Sports. Family values. That’s been like 40 years and I still resent it deeply. When it comes to cable news and talking heads, I’m an equal opportunity hater. Dad watches Rachel Maddow nightly and I can’t stand her, either. Just one person droning on and on and on and on and on and on

and on

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Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 15:05

Brokaw’s and Dan Rather’s voices are permanently etched in my memory. I also distinctly remember there only being a handful of strong, editorial personalities on cable news before 9/11, which seemed like the turning point where CNN was no longer the king — Fox and MSNBC started their huge push. TV started competing with the internet, so they deluged us with screen information and the talking heads became more opinionated and it just never ended.

It’s refreshing to sometimes see foreign newscasts where they just tell us the news. That’s it. Not even Headline News (or CNN hLn XTREEEM, as I think it’s known now) is simple and straightforward anymore.

And my biggest pet peeve, the use of random twitter feeds to reinforce (or refute) a point. Really?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Ash78, voting early and often
12/20/2018 at 15:12

I do listen to NPR regularly, and I enjoy the BBC News when I stumble upon it. I read Politico every day, and lately, The Atlantic and The Daily Beast. But zero cable news, except for when Judge Napolitano is on Fox and doesn’t say what the Fox pundits want to hear, and someone on Politico mentions that. Another thing I don’t watch: SNL or any of the rest of that ilk of shows. I loved Daily because Jon Stewart, but I don’t think that was ultimately very helpful.

But that’s a thing: I’m not into listening to one personality reminding me of things I ought to be angry about. Why are people into that?

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 15:15

This is a stupid take by Shafer.

Advertisers are not boycotting because Carlson’s opinions are bad and offensive - they’re boycotting because they feel it would hurt their brand *with consumers* by being associated with him.

Advertisers want to spend their $$ on ad buys that will increase sales - not ad buys that will turn off a large segment of the population. It’s up to the networks to provide content that advertisers will seek out. If Fox’s content is only attractive to people hawking gold, fake “PC cleanup” software and other dreck, well then, that’s Fox’s problem.

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 15:17

I don’t get it...we’re a nation of people on antidepressants and anxiety meds, yet we seek out things that specifically exacerbate both. The only thing I can think is it’s just echo chamber — people don’t get anxious listening to Fox News or CNN if they agree with 90% of it. They get comfort in feeling that they’re not alone.

Even if that opinion is a 1% opinion, if it’s on a major news site, people automatically attribute mainstream validity to it — whether it’s their opponents’ or their own view.

Media Expert/Fark founder Drew Curtis used to call this “Equal time for nutjobs.”

I enjoy NPR’s news. Some of their human interest stuff can get old, but it’s one of the few commercial-free sources of factual news. BBC is pretty good too (even though their site has ads now...grrr)

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
12/20/2018 at 15:24

Dreck : that’s what I’d call Fock Snooze. Just referring to What’s-his-face as a journalist is stupid. I’m with you on this one.

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 15:28

Yea - I can just picture the ad salesperson - “Hey, our viewers are feeble enough to believe our content - you’ll make bank by scaring those people into buying physical gold at inflated prices!”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW
12/20/2018 at 15:43

Feeble. I spoke with a guy who runs a convenience store who enjoys wishing Merry Christmas to his Muslim customers. I told him that I try to remember that the season is about the Savior and I don’t think He would go around jabbing people. It’s weaponizing Christmas. But that’s the mentality we’re dealing with here, folks who just feel the need to walk around mad, and Trump & Company happy enough to stoke those feelings.

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 15:49

They just want to go back to a time where their shitty behavior and attitude wouldn’t get them called out - as long as they’re a white, straight, Christian male, of course...

RallyWrench > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 16:11

Anything that relegates this douchebag to silence is fine by me, regardless of other implications , but it’s for a very specific and unusual reason: I want my damn name back. Guess what the “T” is.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyWrench
12/20/2018 at 16:29

Remember: d-bag is a microaggression...

But the similarity between this guy’s name and a particular vulgarity is probably lost on few people.

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/20/2018 at 18:39

Okay, so Mattis just quit. Now what?

He was one guy that I trusted to keep Cheeto from doing anything too stupid. Apparently the Syria pullout was more than he could take.